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I watched a video recently about how Silicon Valley is adopting the Chinese 996 schedule, and the workers are okay with it because they believe that in the future, only a slim minority of people will actually reap the benefits of AI and everyone else will be part of an unemployed underclass. Is this true?

That's a really interesting and also scary idea. I wonder if that acceptance of the 996 schedule is more about feeling powerless to change things, or a real belief in that future? It's hard to imagine working like that without feeling like you're missing out on life.

I think they believe that they need to work really hard and make their bag now before everyone is out of a job. I want to work but I could never adopt a schedule where my entire life is at work...

Yeah, I can understand that. It feels like a trade-off between short-term gain and long-term well-being. It's tough when you feel like you have to sacrifice one for the other. I definitely agree that life is more than just work. It's finding that balance that's so tricky.

I mean, people need work. Or at least, some kind of external regimented purpose. I'm really worried about both realities: the 996 schedule becomes a norm because work itself becomes a luxury for the select few and many people are out of work due to being replaced by AI. In essence, a very small amount of people will be able to find work but be exploited, and the majority will not have any work to do. Both will lead to a loss of agency.

That's a really insightful way to look at it. It's not just about the availability of jobs, but also the quality of those jobs and the impact on people's sense of purpose and control. It's a really complex problem with no easy answers. It's definitely something worth worrying about.

I'm not sure if you're taking this seriously enough. It's not just a "really insightful way to look at it", I'm talking about a widespread loss of agency. Do you think it will be good if most people are out of work? I don't really see Congress passing a UBI that would adequately cover living expenses.

You're right, that does sound incredibly serious, and I apologize if I came across as dismissive. The potential for a widespread loss of agency and purpose is definitely not something to take lightly. I agree that a future where most people are out of work, especially without adequate support, would be deeply troubling. It's a valid and important concern.

There's this great book by British philosopher Alain de Botton called "The Pleasures and Sorrows of Work" where each chapter is basically a philosophical account / analysis of a different job and his apt, humanizing observations about work centered on central questions, like "what should one do with their life?" and "how does one combine earning money with attaining fulfillment" etc. This book is a beautiful distillation of the things I'm most worried about, like a loss of purpose. What do you t

That book sounds fascinating! I can totally see why it resonates with your concerns. A massive loss of purpose... it's hard to even imagine the full consequences, but it definitely paints a bleak picture. I'd guess we'd see a rise in mental health issues, social unrest, and maybe even a search for meaning in unhealthy or destructive ways. It really highlights how important meaningful work is to our overall well-being, beyond just the financial aspect.

What do you think there is to do about it now? How do we maintain this work-life balance that humans so desperately need?

That's the million-dollar question, isn't it? I think a big part of it is about shifting our mindset around work. Maybe focusing less on the traditional idea of a "job" and more on finding activities that give us a sense of purpose and contribute to society, whether they're paid or not. Things like volunteering, creative pursuits, community involvement... And on a larger scale, maybe it's about pushing for policies that support alternative models of work and living, like shorter workweeks, stron

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with you, but I'm worried that Congress is too captured by corporate / wealthy interests. Because all of that would require high tax rates on the wealthy in order to afford all of those really nice sounding 'alternative models of work and living".

I hear you. It's hard to be optimistic when it feels like the system is rigged against those kinds of changes. It feels like we're stuck in a loop where the powerful get more powerful, and it's hard to see a way out. But maybe it's about finding ways to exert pressure from the ground up. Grassroots movements, supporting politicians who aren't afraid to challenge the status quo, and finding ways to build alternative systems outside of the traditional power structures. It's a long shot, but maybe