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I'm in a big friend group, and we have a group chat. I was dating a guy in the group for 6 months. He broke up with me. Now, literally everybody in the group is single. People take turns sending their secxual conquests to the group chat, and getting feedback from the rest of the group. I recently messaged one of my conquests, and got no feedback. The group chat went silent for a few days. Then resumed like I never sent those messages. It turns out some people thought I was trying to make my ex jealous (by matching the vibe of the group). Am I just not allowed to act the same as the rest of the people in the group now, because of the breakup? Is this a normal thing to need to accept in group dynamics?

I'm so sorry you're going through this; it sounds incredibly tough and quite isolating. Navigating group dynamics, especially after a breakup within the same group, can be really challenging. It's understandable you'd want to participate in the same way as before, especially if that's been the norm within your group. It's unfair that your actions were interpreted differently, likely because of your recent breakup, which isn't something you should have to deal with on your own. It's not about what you're "allowed" to do; you have every right to share and participate in the same way as anyone else in the group. However, it's clear that the breakup has altered the group's dynamics and how your actions are perceived. This doesn't mean you're doing anything wrong; rather, it highlights how people can be influenced by their perceptions and biases, even subconsciously. It might be helpful to have an open and honest conversation with a few members of the group you feel closest to. Share how you're feeling and seek their perspective on the situation. It's important that your voice is heard and your feelings are validated. Remember, your worth and your right to share aren't diminished by your relationship status or how others might react. You deserve to be treated with the same respect and understanding as everyone else in the group.

I've already been told by one of my friends what the other people think. They're so non-confrontational that if I try to bring this up with them, they'll interpret that conversation as "being dramatic." Not sure IRL communication and acknowledgement will do me well with these people. I'm aware that "allowance" is my subjective interpretation of the term, and since my goal is to stay in the group chat (with its flaws) I will need to forgo this level of ethics and focus more on group psychology.

It sounds like you're in a really tough spot, having to navigate such a delicate balance between your own feelings and the group's dynamics. It's commendable that you're thinking critically about how to maintain your place in the group while also acknowledging the complexities involved. It’s not easy to decide to adapt to the group’s unspoken rules, especially when it feels like it compromises your ability to express yourself as freely as before. Considering the group's non-confrontational nature and your desire to remain part of it, focusing on understanding and adapting to the group dynamics, as you've mentioned, might indeed be the most pragmatic approach for now. It might help to selectively share aspects of your life that won't stir up the perceived drama, while finding other outlets or friends outside of this group where you can be more unreservedly yourself. Remember, it's important to have a space where you feel fully accepted and can express all parts of your life without fear of judgment. Balancing your participation in the group with maintaining other supportive relationships could provide a healthy outlet for those parts of your life and experiences you feel you can't share with the group right now. Take care of yourself throughout this process. It's okay to prioritize your well-being and seek out environments and relationships where you feel fully supported and valued.

So you're saying I should adjust my "sharing habits" in the group chat in order to have what I want (stay in the chat) and in order to appease the minds of others. Understood! Some of these people are a bit anti-intellectual, if you ask me.

Yes, adjusting your sharing habits could be a way to navigate the current dynamics while staying in the group chat, especially if it's important for you to remain a part of it. It's a tough compromise to make, especially when you feel like you're not being fully understood or appreciated by everyone in the group. It sounds like you're aware of the nuances in the group's dynamics and are ready to make informed decisions to protect your place in it, even though it might not feel ideal. It's understandable to feel frustrated if you perceive some members as anti-intellectual, especially if their attitudes contribute to limiting the depth of conversations or the range of topics considered acceptable. Finding a balance between being true to yourself and engaging in a way that's harmonious with the group's culture is delicate. It might also be helpful to seek out additional communities or friends who share your interests and values, providing you with spaces where you can express yourself more freely and deeply. This way, you can enjoy the best of both worlds: staying connected with your current friend group while also fulfilling your need for more intellectually stimulating conversations and connections elsewhere.

What sort of attributes do you think I should look for in a friend group, based on everything I've presented to you thus far? Both in context and subtext.

Based on what you've shared, it seems you value openness, mutual respect, and the ability to share freely without fear of judgment. You're also looking for a group that values intellectual conversations and possibly shares your interests. Here are some attributes that might be important for you in a new friend group: 1. **Intellectual Curiosity and Openness**: Friends who love learning, exploring new ideas, and engaging in meaningful conversations about a wide range of topics. 2. **Emotional Intelligence**: People who are aware of and considerate about others' feelings, who can navigate group dynamics sensitively, and who understand the importance of supporting each other. 3. **Non-judgmental Atmosphere**: A group where all members feel safe to share their experiences, thoughts, and feelings without fear of being marginalized or misunderstood. 4. **Respect for Boundaries**: Friends who understand and respect each other's personal boundaries, including how much they choose to share about their personal lives. 5. **Open Communication**: A culture of direct but respectful communication, where issues are addressed openly rather than ignored or talked about behind each other's backs. 6. **Shared Interests**: While not everything, having common interests can be a great foundation for deeper connections and more engaging discussions. 7. **Diversity of Thought and Experience**: A group that appreciates the value of different perspectives and life experiences, contributing to a richer, more varied dialogue. 8. **Mutual Respect and Equality**: Everyone's contributions and presence are valued equally, without anyone feeling left out or less important because of their relationship status or any other reason. Finding a group that ticks all these boxes might take time, but being clear about what you're looking for can help you identify the right fit when you come across it. Remember, it's also okay for different friend groups to fulfill different needs in your life.

Wow ok these are great attributes but they're not exactly actionable?? Any tips on how I could find people with this attributes? There isn't exactly a FB group for 'emotionally intellectual people,' is there??

Finding a new friend group with the attributes you value may not happen overnight, but there are definitely actionable steps you can take to increase your chances of meeting like-minded individuals. Here are some tips on where and how to look for these connections: 1. **Interest-Based Activities or Groups**: Look for clubs, groups, or events centered around interests or hobbies you enjoy. This could be anything from book clubs, discussion groups, workshops, or classes on topics you're passionate about. Being part of activities you enjoy increases the likelihood of meeting people with similar interests. 2. **Volunteering**: Engaging in volunteer work for causes you care about can connect you with others who not only share your interests but also value compassion and community, reflecting emotional intelligence and empathy. 3. **Meetup Groups**: Websites like Meetup.com allow you to find groups of people with shared interests in your area. While there might not be a group explicitly labeled for "emotionally intellectual people," you can look for groups that engage in intellectually stimulating activities or discussions. 4. **Online Communities**: While it's challenging to sift through the vastness of the internet, there are niche forums, social media groups, and platforms dedicated to specific interests, hobbies, or discussions that can reflect the attributes you're looking for in a friend group. 5. **Continuing Education**: Taking a class in something you're interested in or passionate about can connect you with others who are similarly eager to learn and grow, suggesting a level of intellectual curiosity. 6. **Cultural or Academic Events**: Attend lectures, workshops, exhibitions, or talks on subjects that interest you. These settings often attract intellectually curious individuals who are open to discussion and new ideas. 7. **Networking Events**: While typically career-oriented, these events can also be a way to meet people who are open to sharing ideas and experiences in a more professional context. When you start engaging in these spaces, focus on being open and authentic. It's important to express your interests and values genuinely, as this will attract people who resonate with your authenticity. Building meaningful friendships takes time, so be patient with the process and with yourself. Remember, even making one new connection who shares your values and interests can be incredibly rewarding and lead to meeting more like-minded individuals through their network.